The 1 to 9 Podcast

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Karin
Welcome to the 1 to 9 podcast for interesting insights and knowledge for animals and other beings within multi-dimensional realms. Diana.

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Diana
Hello, Karin.

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Karin
How are you.

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Diana
Today? I'm good. How are you?

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Karin
I'm actually pretty good. Good.

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Diana
I think you're both lovely today.

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Karin
Yes. I think you're just a little bubbly here than I am. But we got a bubbly kitten here, and the other one seemed to disappear. The bubbly.

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Diana
Too, is kind of like a sleeper.

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Karin
So is. So we have a surprise guest today. It's a surprise to me, at least to.

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Diana
Surprise me, too, because I just came in and sat down, and then I realized, oh, there's somebody sitting on the far left corner of Karen's sofa, and it's,

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Karin
So I guess it's not sitting on my hat.

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Diana
No, no, no. But I mean, even if you were sitting on your hat, it wouldn't do anything to it. Okay, so.

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Karin
So who is here?

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Diana
Well, it it's, It seems to be. I haven't asked anything of it yet. A very delicate, delicate creature.

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Karin
A very delicate creature. Oh, my. She's, like.

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Diana
Delicate.

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Karin
Yeah, delicate. I feel like my voice should get more delicate then, because we have a delicate being with us.

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Diana
Yeah. So. Meaning that. Not necessarily the is not necessarily delicate, but, you know, just like fairies and flowers. No, they're quite like you. Think of the best, more delicate.

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Karin
Right. Okay.

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Diana
This this being energy, whatever is more delicate.

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Karin
And where is the energy from?

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Diana
She is saying she's from the. The air. The skies. Not from the earth. And, Oh, she's a holy Spirit of small birds.

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Karin
The spirit of all small birds.

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Diana
Yeah, not big birds. Small birds.

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Karin
Small birds like songbirds and.

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Diana
Sparrows.

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Karin
Marrows and. Okay.

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Diana
Thrushes and robins.

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Karin
Bluebirds and cardinals.

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Diana
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Communicate things about. So, like how? How all animals communicate.

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Karin
Okay. Now, does she take the form of a bird sitting there?

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Diana
No. It just seems kind of like this shimmery kind of energy. That's not like I said, it's very delicate. Okay. One can discern kind of like wings in there and feathers. Not necessarily a bird head, but, wings and feathers, like, very ethereal.

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Karin
Okay. Now, do you think Ellie, who's sitting right next to this bird? Delicate bird essence is knows that it's the bird essence.

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Diana
I don't think so.

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Karin
But she wouldn't be investigating.

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Diana
Right. So this is where the communication comes in, right?

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Karin
Okay.

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Diana
I mean, the, I guess the bird energy for the bird, the spirit of all small birds is does make herself out of being like, prey or anything like that.

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Karin
Oh, okay.

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Diana
For cats. So it's just like it's, it's sitting here. It decided to come down in harmony with, with everything else that's here which is cats included.

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Karin
Okay. And is there. So she came here today to give us some information about interspecies communications.

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Diana
Yes. And the message is just all love. Right.

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Karin
Yeah. A lot of things have a message of love.

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Diana
Yeah, yeah. Right, exactly. But I mean, with this one, with this spirit of small birds. And you can tell that the vibrations, like, are really, really high.

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Karin
Oh, interesting.

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Diana
Yeah. And, they want to they want to send that message out in that there's kind of like this fable about, the light of somebody, about an animal crossing the river, and it takes over an animal that can't swim or something like that. And just like in my nature or whatever. Right. I forget exactly what the fable is, but once they reach the other side, the animal has been done the carrying.

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Diana
It's the one that has been carried over. Just saying that. Oh it's in my nature. Right. So anyway every single being on earth was included. We all have what's in our natures. Meaning that it's part of it's not bad. It's not good. It's like.

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Karin
Right. It's just human.

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Diana
Nature. It's just human nature. Just like cats.

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Karin
Chase after birds, chase.

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Diana
After birds and chase after mice and rats and kill them. Eat something that's in their nature, right? Dolphins eat fish right? In their nature, right? I'll all to maintain balance and harmony.

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Karin
So having nature is part of balance and harmony.

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Diana
Right. Exactly. And that balance and harmony also does include death and dying.

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Karin
Of course. Otherwise, what would be the point of being born? Never died.

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Diana
Well, I think that'd be great, actually.

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Karin
If you never. If you were born and you'd never died.

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Diana
Yeah.

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Karin
Well, I know, but.

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Diana
I mean, we're born, but we also actually never die also.

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Karin
Well, I'm talking about our existence here on Earth. Not our spirit existence. Right? Right. Our souls existence. So death is part of the human experience.

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Diana
So it is. And she's saying that's all part of balance and harmony. Okay. And people should not worry. Understand that more.

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Karin
That's with us as the.

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Diana
Small but small birds.

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Karin
Spare the small birds. This it would be in the nature of animals to want to have fun too, right?

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Diana
Oh yeah, that's where they sing.

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Karin
Right? The birds sing to have fun.

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Diana
Yeah, because they're happy. You're happy and they sing.

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Karin
And they sing sometimes when they're not so happy too.

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Diana
Well, yeah.

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Karin
It's a different.

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Diana
Sound. Yeah, but they, you know, I mean, they want to spread happiness also. So that's why they fly around and, you know, do if you've ever seen swallows. Right. It's like whoa, there's a big giant that herds of them but flocks, there's lots of you know, and they're just super down and around and it's like, well.

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Karin
Yeah, they're a lot of fun. So the, the most of that is this being this with us saying this is for fun and for entertainment for humans and the rest of the world.

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Diana
No, no, no, not necessarily. They didn't do it because.

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Karin
They're having fun.

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Diana
They're having fun.

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Karin
And when they lift their vibration, then it lifts our vibration. Right? So that's how they have fun as they swoop around in the sky. And they, they some sing some swoop. I don't know if the swallows known for its song, but it's certainly known for those formations in the sky.

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Diana
Right. And then they go out and gather twigs and make your Nelson hop around. You know, I mean everything is.

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Karin
Everything is done with a lightness. Lightness of being.

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Diana
That's right. Lightness of being. Exactly.

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Karin
That's why I have a couple cardinals that come quite often to my backyard and chirp away. It's as if they think our freedom.

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Diana
Oh. Okay. I've never tried to.

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Karin
Oh yeah, I do it too.

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Diana
Okay.

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Karin
And so I'll take food out. And of course, I have to fly away while I'm feeding them. And then they come back and they'll eat.

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Diana
So they're saying thank you.

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Karin
They are saying thank you. You're hearing that through the spirit being or just.

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Diana
That through their.

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Karin
Through the cardinal sort of saying thanks for feeding this one we.

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Diana
Ask. Yes.

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Karin
All right. You're welcome.

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Diana
And they said keep doing it in the winter time.

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Karin
I have a big bag of food I just came into, plenty of food for the whole winter.

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Diana
Oh, okay. They're say. Oh, good. Oh, good.

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Karin
So that does the spirit bird. Do they worry about things like we have exterminated a few species of birds over time? Is that also part of the balance or inbounds bounce?

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Diana
Well.

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Karin
Like the carrier pigeons, long gone and stuff like that.

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Diana
Right. Okay. It is what it is. They don't judge. They don't worry. They don't hold anything against us. You know it's like they live for themselves and they live for us.

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Karin
Okay. Now every morning I have a, I have a big pine tree a Leyland cypress in my backyard. And it I'm going to give a morning. You can look into the tree and see sparrows quietly sitting everywhere and docx sitting everywhere and occasionally a couple other types of birds. Sitting there patiently waiting for the hour the cats get to go out and play in the backyard to be done so they can come down and eat.

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Karin
And sometimes it looks like they're all kind of happy in my backyard.

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Diana
Is that happy sitting in the tree?

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Karin
Yeah, happy sitting in the tree waiting and happy being having a place because I live in the city, like I mentioned. And having a place that's, you know, a dense big pine tree like that that's there year round for protection, with lots of branches to sit on. They don't have to sit next to each other. They can each have their own branch.

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Diana
Yeah. I mean, you you don't. Maybe we think of birds as kind of like not having any particular homes for them, but they do, you know, I mean, they've got their places that they want. They want to stay in, you know, they want to reside in like.

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Karin
So is my backyard one of them?

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Diana
Yeah. They love that tree. And, well, they're not specifically saying thank you for the tree range because, you know, you didn't really plant a tree.

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Karin
Yes, I did.

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Diana
You did.

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Karin
I did plant a tree. I planted every tree in my backyard.

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Diana
Really? That tree.

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Karin
Oh I care a long time.

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Diana
Oh they didn't know that. Oh okay. Now they're saying thank you. Thank you for our home.

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Karin
It's my intention to have a little forest back there.

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Karin
Inner city forests. And that's what I have chosen for them.

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Diana
And also, you know, thank you for feeding us.

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Karin
You're welcome. So is there anything that we as humans can do to be more appreciative of the birds? I mean, I know a bunch of us already do things like birdwatching, and we love to look at bird pictures. And we have the Audubon Society that kind of honors birds and whatnot.

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Diana
Very well. I mean, there's lots of people now who kind of like, pay attention to what they're planting and or yards in their gardens, put in specific plants or flowers that attract certain kinds of birds.

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Karin
Like the sunflowers to track the finches.

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Diana
Right. So, you know, she's saying if you want to, you can do more of that.

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Karin
What about spraying for bugs? Do they like. No, no.

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Diana
No, don't don't spray any pesticides.

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Karin
You don't like the spray?

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Diana
No no no no.

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Karin
They want more bugs as most of meat bugs or most of meat seeds that really eat.

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Diana
Any bugs and seeds, well, they eat nectar.

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Karin
Nectar? Would they like me to put a hummingbird feeder in my backyard?

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Diana
There are big birds around here, you know.

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Karin
I just haven't put one in my backyard.

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Diana
Yeah, they like it. Yeah. So we come around.

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Karin
They come around?

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Diana
Yeah.

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Karin
All right, well, consider that it's, I don't think I have too many flowers that they would like, except maybe morning glories, like trumpet shaped flowers. That's what their beaks are for.

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Diana
Okay, so another thing, humans can do. Kind of like foster a relationship between, like, birds is to, Okay. She's saying flights of fancy flights.

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Karin
Of fancy.

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Diana
Flights of fancy. At first, I was thinking that she was saying, okay, you know, we should come. I think about flying more in our imaginations. Oh, cause, I don't know about you, but only lots of people have this, right? Yeah, yeah. It's fabulous. Dreams were to be flying, and it was just incredible. You know, I'd be taking from the earth, slowly flown up, and then I'd be flying and just looking down and seeing everything right.

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Karin
And sounding more like an eagle or a, hawk or something that flies up in.

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Diana
Just, You. No, I mean, you can you can fly up to whatever height you want and then look down. Right. And, so she I thought she was saying that. Right. Because, you know, you can do that not only when you when you're asleep and dreaming, you can just think about that. Right? Absolutely right. If you just, you know.

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Karin
Relax somewhere, read a story about flying around like a bird and.

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Diana
Yeah, you're up there or even on a fly carpet. But then that changed into flights of fancy that she was saying so I think she said yeah, okay. Use your imagination to take you to places that you haven't been to in that you want to go to places, meaning not geographic places, but you just can't make,

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Karin
States of consciousness.

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Diana
It could be whatever, whatever it is you want. Yeah. Creative space or, a visual space where you can see whatever it is you want to see colors and different shapes.

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Karin
Okay. So if like you want to go up and fly around a little cloud, go in and out of the colors and land the clouds, you could just do that. Your imagination. She's saying do more of it.

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Diana
Do more of that.

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Karin
Do more of that.

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Diana
Exactly right.

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Karin
Interesting. And what will that do for us to do more of that?

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Diana
It will. It will make us live more in the moment and also make us okay, enable us to be more open to kind of make all the communication that's actually happening all the time, doing everything.

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Karin
Okay. So the birds, when we run into birds, do they have little special messages for us, like like for instance, there was a bird that came and. Landed on the car. I think on my car there's a little baby bird came, landed on my car.

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Diana
Oh, like, fell out of its nest or whatever.

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Karin
Maybe it's out of its nest. And my someone I know was it was absolutely convinced that there was a message from that bird. But I think the bird lived.

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Diana
Oh, good.

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Karin
Well, I don't know. It wasn't there the next morning.

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Diana
Right. Well, it could have fallen off your car.

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Karin
It was able to fly.

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Diana
Oh, maybe it flew away.

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Karin
It might have gotten, you know, I don't know what happened to it. I put it up on my car so I wouldn't be bothered by right. It seemed to have been stunned. It might have been like learning to fly and didn't quite have it together yet. I'm not sure, but I don't know if it said thank you.

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Karin
I don't know if it just, you know.

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Diana
I think she's saying that that whatever that bird, don't worry about whatever happened to it. Is there okay. There. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But in terms of a specific message from individual birds. Oh, she's saying that one didn't have a specific message. But there's. To convey something to somebody they could.

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Karin
Chirp through a bird.

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Diana
Right. Yeah.

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Karin
Especially if that loved one really liked that type of bird.

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Diana
Exactly, exactly. Yes.

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Diana
Oh okay. She's someone else like using the wings. Like she's conducting something.

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Karin
Yeah.

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Diana
So. And she said no big orchestra. So meaning? So like music. Music. We should also in these flights of fancy. Some people were her music.

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Karin
Now does this bird song music or is this any kind of music.

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Diana
Any kind of music?

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Karin
Interesting. So when we're imagining, does this sound okay?

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Diana
They the ducks, the small birds. This is the spirit of the small birds saying they love all kinds of sound. Well not not bad. Sound nice or like, harmonious sound. See, like calm back. Well no, like I said, it's got a.

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Karin
Like more classical or.

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Diana
Just mean anything that sounds good to them. Okay, okay.

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Karin
And just trying to get.

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Diana
Like obviously car crashing. Do you don't like that.

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Karin
Oh they like sound of car crash.

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Diana
Yeah right.

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Karin
Okay. We're big machines. Big something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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Diana
So.

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Karin
Children playing, they like that sound.

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Diana
Yeah. Because people are laughing. Okay. So where was she going with this.

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Karin
So she wanted to, she was orchestrating music saying add music to your imagination when you're.

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Diana
Yeah. She's saying some people who actually hear music.

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Karin
They will automatically hear music when they sit down and imagine themselves like a bird floating around to places.

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Diana
Some people will, if if you don't automatically hear that, you can always try it. Try to add that.

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Karin
Add that, okay.

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Diana
Yeah. I mean whatever songs you like, just like we played in your head.

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Karin
The second bird songs actually be calming for humans to listen to. And a lot of people have like bird songs on and so like a way to calm nervous systems and stuff.

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Diana
Oh yeah. Yes.

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Karin
Are they done specifically to do that or was it just the nature of the birds?

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Diana
Well, okay. You know, I mean, they've got all kinds of bird sounds, right. The ones that sort of like, alert them of danger so they're not going to be calming. Right? Right. But, but the happy ones, the ones that they sing when they're happy, those will be calming. Yeah.

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Karin
How does do the birds? Are the birds upset at all by a lot of artificial energies running through the air waves like Emfs and things like that. Do they think it bothered by that stuff?

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Diana
Okay, keep in mind that this music, this is the spirit of the small songbirds. Right? So she's saying yeah, that's it's less of a factor for them because I guess they're kind of like closer to the ground.

00;20;32;29 - 00;20;36;15
Karin
I know, but there's a tower right here. It's only ten feet off the ground.

00;20;36;19 - 00;20;48;29
Diana
Yeah. You know, they've gotten used to it in a short space of time. Or, you know, it's just.

00;20;49;01 - 00;20;49;18
Karin
Just not that.

00;20;49;18 - 00;20;58;21
Diana
Bad. It's just not that bad because there's so many other kind of, like, cosmic sounds in the air anyway. Okay. I can't hear. Right. You know what they hear?

00;20;58;21 - 00;21;03;28
Karin
The ultra low frequency sounds that we can a lot of that aren't audible to us. They're all over the place.

00;21;04;06 - 00;21;12;02
Diana
Yeah. So she's saying that there are they've had to deal with all this stuff for a long time.

00;21;12;05 - 00;21;19;27
Karin
Oh, okay. So no big deal. Is there a place in the world where the birds are the happiest?

00;21;19;29 - 00;21;34;17
Diana
Oh, no, she's saying no. And and in general, they they find happiness wherever they are.

00;21;34;19 - 00;21;49;23
Diana
And even though they can, you know, really travel that long distances, right? They communicate with every, every other bird in the world, too.

00;21;49;25 - 00;22;11;06
Karin
If so. And so the birds, the small birds don't necessarily have really long lives, like something like the dolphins or the. Yeah, other situations. How does that affect them? It's like keep them lighter sense peace and lighter beings less serious. So.

00;22;12;29 - 00;22;27;00
Diana
She's saying she doesn't she doesn't think so. Just because you live longer and it's in a physical body doesn't mean you're more serious.

00;22;27;03 - 00;22;29;28
Karin
It's.

00;22;30;01 - 00;22;39;25
Diana
Well, she's saying she also thinks that if they were to live longer in their physical bodies, she doesn't think they'd be more serious.

00;22;39;28 - 00;22;42;06
Karin
They'd just be the same as they are now.

00;22;42;09 - 00;22;45;24
Diana
Yeah, maybe it was just a little bit wiser.

00;22;45;26 - 00;23;18;22
Karin
Do they, does she have any idea how they came to be. Oh because we're kind of confused sometimes by evolution. You know we've got first life that we humans can conceive of where a single cell bacteria is or something. And then, you know, one thing led to another and we had more and more complex lives. But how did we branch off to where some some fly and some walk and some swim and where do they fit into that?

00;23;18;23 - 00;23;23;23
Diana
Okay, well, she's saying they've got their own origin stories.

00;23;23;26 - 00;23;30;13
Karin
They have their own origin. So they didn't actually evolve from a piece of a bacteria on Earth like that.

00;23;30;13 - 00;23;50;08
Diana
So they have their own origin stories, right. And this is their story. Okay. They came out of or it's not really evolved. But so like and it's not really raindrops drops of something that were coming down on yours.

00;23;50;11 - 00;23;51;29
Karin
From another galaxy and from.

00;23;52;05 - 00;24;15;00
Diana
Someplace else. Okay. Right. And they turned into birds. Like they're falling down. And then that at some point, you know, they go through the Earth's atmosphere at some point when they're closer to the to the soil. I mean, not that not that high up. They just turn it to birds.

00;24;15;03 - 00;24;16;04
Karin
That's their origin.

00;24;16;04 - 00;24;17;06
Diana
That's their origins.

00;24;17;06 - 00;24;19;09
Karin
And that's a small bird origin story.

00;24;19;10 - 00;24;19;28
Diana
Yeah.

00;24;20;00 - 00;24;26;16
Karin
And the difference in birds was primarily from different sources.

00;24;29;01 - 00;24;53;25
Diana
Yeah. Because where these drops were coming from, I know a star or stars that had exploded or some things that come off of, you know, there's all kinds of stuff coming off right? Things everywhere. Right? Right. And if it was some kind of and it's not just one thing, it's a whole bunch of different things.

00;24;53;27 - 00;25;04;16
Diana
I mean, if it was like a solid stone or whatever just turned into energy drops. I think that's interesting.

00;25;04;23 - 00;25;26;13
Karin
It is kind of cool. I saw it, you know, it could be a piece of cosmic debris the other night when we were sailing over Lake Erie, a number of us saw it and it's straight through the sky was rainbow color. It's iridescent. And poof, it was gone. Yeah. I wonder if a new species of bird came out of that.

00;25;26;15 - 00;25;29;03
Diana
I don't know, maybe.

00;25;29;05 - 00;25;36;04
Karin
Well, so is there a time that that happened and it really hasn't happened again? Or is,

00;25;36;07 - 00;25;43;19
Diana
Yeah. She says it happened. Most of it happened long time ago. La la la.

00;25;43;21 - 00;25;45;15
Karin
And it has continue to happen.

00;25;45;15 - 00;25;47;00
Diana
No, it doesn't happen continuously.

00;25;47;00 - 00;25;59;22
Karin
Okay. And and so some of the species that came down that way through that origin story are they're disappeared for various reasons. And no new ones have appeared.

00;26;00;03 - 00;26;06;01
Diana
She's saying, I don't know, they could have they could have appeared.

00;26;07;29 - 00;26;09;17
Karin
New ones could have appeared.

00;26;09;19 - 00;26;14;19
Diana
But, okay. Not like it was at the beginning.

00;26;14;25 - 00;26;17;18
Karin
I know that a long time ago.

00;26;17;20 - 00;26;18;09
Diana
A long time.

00;26;18;15 - 00;26;19;05
Karin
Ago.

00;26;19;07 - 00;26;20;21
Diana
Like,

00;26;20;23 - 00;26;23;18
Karin
50,000 years or.

00;26;23;20 - 00;26;26;05
Diana
More like, I don't know.

00;26;26;05 - 00;26;28;03
Karin
100,000 years.

00;26;28;05 - 00;26;31;18
Diana
There were there were animals already on the Earth.

00;26;31;18 - 00;26;33;02
Karin
Where the humans already on years.

00;26;35;02 - 00;26;36;13
Diana
Yes or no?

00;26;36;15 - 00;26;37;19
Karin
Prehistoric humans.

00;26;37;19 - 00;26;39;15
Diana
Yeah.

00;26;39;18 - 00;26;41;24
Karin
Different species of humans. Yeah. Here. Now.

00;26;42;00 - 00;26;42;21
Diana
Right.

00;26;42;24 - 00;26;45;16
Karin
Okay, so they came in when there was a different species of humans.

00;26;45;22 - 00;26;46;26
Diana
Yeah, yeah.

00;26;46;29 - 00;26;50;12
Karin
Somebody out there listening is going to be able to figure out about when that was.

00;26;50;16 - 00;26;50;27
Diana
Right.

00;26;51;04 - 00;26;53;05
Karin
The earliest early species of humans.

00;26;53;05 - 00;26;58;25
Diana
Yeah. I mean, you know, seeing, you know, dates don't matter. Like.

00;26;59;02 - 00;27;08;13
Karin
No, they don't matter, but it's kind of fun to every once in a while because we're very linear in our thinking here on Earth. So it's kind of fun at once. While to try and piece together time like a puzzle.

00;27;08;16 - 00;27;29;02
Diana
Yeah, it's true, but then she's saying, okay, you know, this may have happened to her like originally in a linear fashion, but because you saw that cosmic debris changing in Chinese colors, it's like it also is showing you that it's not time is not linear.

00;27;29;05 - 00;27;50;26
Karin
That's a second meteorite I've seen. I don't know how many people get lucky enough to see one, but the second one I've seen, but this one was during night Sky, so it was very bright and colorful when I saw before during the day and I it was still a light, but it looked like a white light, which must've been pretty big for me to see it during the day.

00;27;50;29 - 00;27;51;28
Diana
Right?

00;27;52;01 - 00;28;13;16
Karin
So I think the advice to sum up a little bit about this, you know, the birds have their own origin story. The birds are generally happy and full of love, and their songs are here to entertain themselves or song in their, their, their. Their movement, the way they live. You know, the way they dance in the sky.

00;28;13;16 - 00;28;17;11
Diana
And okay, she's also saying feathers are important.

00;28;17;14 - 00;28;37;02
Karin
Feathers are important? Yeah. What about the people's like the Hawaiians? The early Hawaiians would make all their, royal garb out of feathers, their long cloaks and hats and stuff. Lot of feathers. Was that like, what was that? What were they doing when they did that? Well, it's like.

00;28;37;02 - 00;28;38;11
Diana
An homage to the bird.

00;28;38;11 - 00;28;40;19
Karin
So there's an homage to the birds.

00;28;40;21 - 00;28;46;26
Diana
However, if they were actually killing the birds to get their feathers, start with, you know, homage.

00;28;46;29 - 00;28;48;09
Karin
Well, I don't know if they did that or.

00;28;48;10 - 00;28;59;18
Diana
I don't know that either. But in times past, feathers of certain species of birds were very prized for articles of clothing, right? Just like, you know.

00;28;59;20 - 00;29;17;06
Karin
Oh, yeah. And a lot of them were killed off. Except that. Yeah, but a lot of them and a lot of those birds are coming back. And it's illegal to kill a lot of birds now, and we've learned, you know, like we, I think we've dumbed down a little bit like we use more like peacock feathers where they are constantly setting them.

00;29;17;21 - 00;29;27;24
Diana
Right, right. So, I mean, she's saying with feathers that you just ordinary people just find. Right? They will bring you luck.

00;29;27;27 - 00;29;28;27
Karin
Oh.

00;29;28;29 - 00;29;40;15
Diana
Sorry. But if you're going if you're buying feathers that have been acrylic harvested or, you know, not in good ways, right, they will not bring you back.

00;29;40;18 - 00;29;59;22
Karin
Yeah. I think most countries or most places have outlawed, but who knows? You know, it's hard to say when you, Okay, let me ask them a good question about down. So you have lots and lots of stuff made from down and goose feathers and stuff like that. What do they think about that? Oh.

00;29;59;25 - 00;30;17;14
Diana
Do you think that it's this is something that actually provides humans with the necessary, or something that they need? It's good. I mean, there it's the birds are killed for. They're down.

00;30;17;21 - 00;30;21;16
Karin
No they're not, but who knows if they're sustainably harvested or not?

00;30;21;16 - 00;30;23;18
Diana
Well, like I said, it's like.

00;30;23;21 - 00;30;31;05
Karin
So high. So if you're buying down, you should figure that out. Like what is how well how well sourced was it.

00;30;31;05 - 00;30;33;13
Diana
Yeah. Or you can kind of feel it too. Yeah.

00;30;33;13 - 00;30;34;09
Karin
You can sense it if.

00;30;34;09 - 00;30;43;11
Diana
It's if you got a down pillow on your kind of like something that is energy or energy of a dead bird is in there, you know, it's like, okay, well.

00;30;43;11 - 00;30;47;20
Karin
I wouldn't think so much dead birds, but I was thinking birds that may not have been treated real well.

00;30;47;20 - 00;30;54;14
Diana
Well, any kind of negative raises, you know. Thank you. Okay. Don't don't buy that below. Don't use that.

00;30;54;19 - 00;30;55;28
Karin
So do sense energy.

00;30;56;04 - 00;31;02;14
Diana
Oh yeah. And then kind of like get too negative of energy to take it up.

00;31;02;16 - 00;31;16;15
Karin
Right okay. Dissipate it. Exercise it from the pillows right down comforters or whatever. Right. I'm trying to think, a lot of times we tell stories about birds to children.

00;31;16;18 - 00;31;20;14
Diana
Oh, you mean like the, the stork bringing the baby?

00;31;20;17 - 00;31;22;19
Karin
Oh, well, that's a big bird story, but.

00;31;22;19 - 00;31;24;04
Diana
Yeah, it's a big bird story.

00;31;24;09 - 00;31;47;29
Karin
But I think there's little children's books that always incorporate little birds. Lots times. Seems like our society is a lot about, you know, introducing little children to birds and then introducing. Then when you become a certain age and you have a more free time, you become a bird watcher and become more interested in bird skin. And then there's two swaths of time in between.

00;31;47;29 - 00;31;50;29
Karin
We don't think much about birds from like.

00;31;51;01 - 00;31;55;28
Diana
You know, media and they're saying and she is saying, okay, let's change that.

00;31;56;00 - 00;31;57;18
Karin
Oh, and just incorporate.

00;31;57;21 - 00;31;59;10
Diana
Pay more attention to birds.

00;31;59;12 - 00;32;00;15
Karin
Okay. What about what.

00;32;00;15 - 00;32;04;16
Diana
She's suggesting, you know. Yeah. Fancy and whatever.

00;32;04;18 - 00;32;13;05
Karin
What about all the people that keep birds in her house? Like, for a long time? I have these little tiny, cutest finches in the world in my house. I love those little birds.

00;32;13;08 - 00;32;34;10
Diana
Yeah, well, you know, it's like with any other kind of animal companion that people have is companions, right? Don't feel bad about if they if they're in steps. It's that's what their life has been. Don't think about. Oh yeah. If I set it free it's going to be happier. No.

00;32;34;12 - 00;32;42;29
Karin
Well I didn't necessarily think that about them but I just wondered if being in a little cage was a happy time for them.

00;32;43;01 - 00;32;44;29
Diana
Well you know.

00;32;44;29 - 00;32;47;23
Karin
I wasn't about to let them go. I didn't feel like they all survived.

00;32;47;23 - 00;32;50;10
Diana
And no, there's no way. I mean.

00;32;50;12 - 00;32;53;27
Karin
They wouldn't have survived outside of the cage either, because my cats would have gotten a great.

00;32;53;27 - 00;32;59;03
Diana
So, you know, I mean, she's saying sometimes it is what it is, right?

00;32;59;03 - 00;33;08;04
Karin
Okay. And the little other birds, like the little parakeets and stuff like that, that people have in their houses and live a long time and really enjoy them.

00;33;09;01 - 00;33;20;00
Diana
They're bringing happiness to their okay human companions and the human companions or bringing happiness to their companions.

00;33;20;03 - 00;33;43;06
Karin
All right. I mean, it always seems okay, you know? I mean, every once while the birds you get to bigger birds is a little different story. I know they said they like music. That sounds good, but are we talking about, classical music where they have instruments that are somewhat high pitched, like birds, like violins and, flutes?

00;33;43;07 - 00;33;46;29
Diana
Oh, are you saying you should try to look, I mean.

00;33;47;02 - 00;33;49;06
Karin
Like flute music? Do they like flute music?

00;33;49;06 - 00;33;53;23
Diana
You should try it out once. See? See what kinds of birds show up for different kinds of music?

00;33;53;26 - 00;34;13;23
Karin
All right. Signals speaker out there tomorrow morning and. See what happens if there are no birds in my tree? I'm trying. Nothing different style of music. Oh. Oh, it's it's interesting. So is there any last messages from the bird?

00;34;16;02 - 00;34;19;02
Diana
Okay. Besides music, they also.

00;34;19;02 - 00;34;20;17
Karin
Look.

00;34;20;20 - 00;34;20;27
Diana
Just.

00;34;20;27 - 00;34;23;24
Karin
Love flowers.

00;34;23;26 - 00;34;28;23
Diana
So I was going to say plants, but you see flowers, flowers, the colors, you know.

00;34;28;28 - 00;34;32;24
Karin
Plant, plant more flowers and.

00;34;32;27 - 00;34;37;21
Diana
I mean, regular just plants are green, but they love the colors.

00;34;37;21 - 00;34;49;15
Karin
They love the colors. Yeah. Okay. So interesting. So make your garden colorful or yard colorful to attract more of the flower, birds to it.

00;34;49;17 - 00;34;52;07
Diana
Right? Yeah.

00;34;52;07 - 00;35;05;22
Karin
It's kind of interesting that the goldfinches like sunflowers. And there are some and, cardinals, like, in particular, the sort of berries that are on the dogwood, red berries from the dogwood trees. And.

00;35;05;24 - 00;35;06;08
Diana
Yeah.

00;35;06;08 - 00;35;11;21
Karin
It's okay. Yeah. There's some colors that are, kind of funny.

00;35;11;25 - 00;35;18;22
Diana
Because the colors have got the same vibrations. Right. Is so, you know, so yeah.

00;35;18;23 - 00;35;28;13
Karin
So the Cardinal in particular, that's a really high vibrating bird because of its cardinal color. Cardinal red color. Is that.

00;35;28;16 - 00;35;38;06
Diana
True? Well, they're all through all high vibrating. Right. They don't like to think of one as what is being or.

00;35;38;09 - 00;35;43;20
Karin
Okay, or it's like. But the cardinal is one of the few birds that really stands out for its coloring.

00;35;43;22 - 00;35;47;04
Diana
Yeah, that may be charmed by the male cardinal, though.

00;35;47;07 - 00;35;52;14
Karin
Yes, I am just talking about the male cardinal. Right. But they both stand out for a little crest on their head.

00;35;52;14 - 00;35;57;16
Diana
Yes, yes. This is a sore point among them.

00;35;57;19 - 00;36;01;03
Karin
Oh, that one's more recognizable than another.

00;36;01;06 - 00;36;07;15
Diana
So like the colorings of the male versus the female, she's saying, yeah, no, let's not talk about that.

00;36;07;17 - 00;36;21;09
Karin
Interesting, interesting. Well, you know, if the birds were close like humans do, you can sort of combat that, take care of it, mix things up like we do. We can't always tell who's gonna draw here because of what we wear.

00;36;21;12 - 00;36;22;14
Diana
That's right.

00;36;22;16 - 00;36;24;05
Karin
Yeah. We can change our hair.

00;36;24;05 - 00;36;27;27
Diana
Or she's saying we're working on we're working on stuff.

00;36;28;01 - 00;36;33;13
Karin
Okay? Even people like me who don't have a compelling singing voice, she says.

00;36;33;13 - 00;36;41;05
Diana
Especially it's for those because you don't have to use your voice to sing.

00;36;41;07 - 00;36;41;25
Karin
Oh.

00;36;41;28 - 00;36;42;29
Diana
Right. Okay.

00;36;42;29 - 00;36;53;05
Karin
Sounds like some of my friends would prefer that I don't use my voice to sing. Yeah, I ended up being one of them.

00;36;53;05 - 00;36;59;04
Diana
She's right. I cannot sing either. Right? So, like when she says sing with your heart rate.

00;36;59;06 - 00;37;00;02
Karin
Sing with your heart.

00;37;00;02 - 00;37;16;13
Diana
Okay. So you can actually, if you can sing right, sing heartfelt. Lee. But if you if you can't sing like me and Karen, well, you just sing internally with your heart.

00;37;16;15 - 00;37;37;00
Karin
Oh, I can sing. Just no one wants to listen to me. I just want to make that real clear. I can sing, all right? I sing internally with my heart. And Diana can laugh. That that might make up for it. All righty. Well, thank you for being here. This is the spirit of the small birds.

00;37;37;02 - 00;37;37;23
Diana
Yeah.

00;37;37;26 - 00;37;40;03
Karin
And it's quite interesting. Who expected that?

00;37;40;04 - 00;37;49;19
Diana
I know exactly. And she's saying thank you so much. She's actually 13. Bowing. Right. She's very gracious.

00;37;49;22 - 00;37;52;08
Karin
Oh that's awesome.

00;37;52;11 - 00;37;54;08
Diana
Oh, now I can see her head.

00;37;54;10 - 00;37;55;19
Karin
But what does the head look like?

00;37;55;25 - 00;37;56;29
Diana
Just a small bird head.

00;37;57;04 - 00;37;57;29
Karin
The small bird has.

00;37;57;29 - 00;37;58;27
Diana
A small beak.

00;37;58;29 - 00;38;02;17
Karin
Okay.

00;38;02;19 - 00;38;10;10
Karin
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