Monkey Mind plays with our thoughts but not when a it becomes an Evolving Mind.

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Karin
Welcome to the 1 to 9 podcast for interesting insights and knowledge for animals and other beings within multi-dimensional realms. Good morning Diana.

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Diana
Good morning Karin.

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Karin
Are we today? Oh, I think we're actually pretty good today. We're pretty giddy. Almost.

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Diana
Yeah. Were we giddy? Yeah. We're coming off this post interview high.

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Karin
Oh, well. Yeah. Exactly a post interview. Hi. We had the lovely, Monica Ramirez from Soul Talk. If you guys have ever heard of that, give us a nice interview and ask us all kinds of really interesting questions. And it was it was really fun.

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Diana
Yes, it was quite a lot of fun.

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Karin
So we can search for it. Maybe I'll put a link to it in the.

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Diana
Actually, a good idea.

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Karin
Actually, by the time this podcast comes out, it will have been out for a while.

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Diana
So. Yeah. Yeah. They were also on. We also did a pre-interview for another podcast.

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Karin
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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Diana
So?

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Karin
So yeah, we're starting to get for that one. We're starting to get our multidimensional, realms expanded a little bit here on the earthly realm.

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Diana
That's great.

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Karin
Maybe it will unify. So we have a another surprise guest, always a surprise guest. And like I always a surprise, I most. I want Diana to tell you who's here today.

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Diana
Okay, well, first of all, they showed up just as this lump of energy. Pretty tall, 4 or 5ft tall. And then it kind of like they showed itself in that. Oh, Karen put a little kids chair up for them. They were sitting. Sitting in it. Right. And then I realized, oh, this is kind of like the little, little old man.

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Diana
And he's got this grayish, grayish cloak on like monk clothes, but he's sitting there and he's wringing his hands and I think kind of, you know, worried about something. He's agonizing over something.

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Karin
So he like the chair,

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Diana
Yeah.

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Karin
Yeah.

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Diana
The weight off his feet.

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Karin
We have we have furniture for our guests and however they show up.

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Diana
Yeah, yeah. I mean, there was a time when when five of them were sitting on your sofa.

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Karin
That's right. That's right. So he's sitting on the chair.

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Diana
On the chair right now. He's listening to. Okay. Because we're talking about it. Okay. And then, you know, I came to me that this is monkey mind.

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Karin
And monkey mind. Okay. Yeah.

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Diana
And he. And the reason I worried is because.

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Karin
Well, wait a minute. He didn't say he was worried yet.

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Diana
What did it say? You. He's bringing his hand.

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Karin
Oh, he's bringing his hands. He's very worried.

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Diana
Right? He's worried because, you know, we we just try to ignore him.

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Karin
We as humans.

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Diana
We. Meaning we're. I'm talking specifically about you and me. We try to ignore him.

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Karin
Oh, monkey mind. We try to ignore monkey mind. I, I don't know if I try to ignore him as much as I like. Try to not have him around at all.

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Diana
Yeah. Well, okay. I remember saying just last week or last week saying to, Mary Beth and the other people in this intuition group that, you know, I find monkey mind to be very annoying. How do I get rid of him? Oh, geez.

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Karin
That wasn't very nice.

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Diana
Well, and then they came up with various things. You give him things to do, right? Oh, okay. So they're occupied with something. So they're not bothering you.

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Karin
Like large calculations.

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Diana
Yeah. A coloring.

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Karin
Book. Oh a coloring book. You know, that's actually pretty interesting. I've, I bought a friend, coloring book the other day for that very reason to give some monkey mind. Something to do in coloring works really well because it's a physical and a mind brain activity.

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Diana
Yes.

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Karin
So it's very calming, right?

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Diana
Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I mean, he's listening. He's listening to all this stuff.

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Karin
So what is monkey mind think about all the, coloring books? It's a rage now. I mean, everybody's brain is then coloring books with, you know, colored flowers to coloring or or. I actually have a coloring book. I don't know if this is a good one or not, but my mom has a bunch of coloring books. She recently moved into a small apartment, and she has a bunch of coloring books, and she was enjoying them coloring in the scenes and the flowers and having a really good time.

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Karin
And then my sister center coloring book with sailboats. And then she kind of got frustrated. She said, what the heck, sailboats are white, the sails are white. What is there to color? This is big black, bubbling sky and blue. I mean, this is like a joke. Every page is the same. A white sailboat and a white sail. No.

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Karin
So? So it's colored in. But anyway, that's a side story. But yeah. What is monkey face? Think about the coloring book.

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Diana
Monkey face, monkey mind, monkey mind.

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Karin
Let me ask that question again. Let me ask that question again. You've got to.

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Diana
Tell me you're sorry.

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Karin
Okay. I'm sorry. And I'm always sorry when I use the wrong name. But I'm very sorry, especially to you. Lines and faces are very different. I don't understand that. So I just have a question for you. I was going to ask you, monkey mind what you thought about the coloring books, but now I want to know. Are you monkeying with my mind right now?

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Diana
Instead, since is your mind is monkey with itself.

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Karin
Oh my goodness. Well, I do have a lot going on right now, so apologies.

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Diana
Okay, so he's he's a little bit happier now that he's doing something.

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Karin
But what does he think about the coloring books.

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Diana
Oh, yeah. This is the first he's heard about. Oh okay. He's not heard of him before. I mean, he's monkey mind is around because he's in everybody, and he sees people and he sees adults with with these coloring books. And he thought it was kind of weird. Where what are these grown ups doing? Coloring. Well, it's supposed to be for little kids.

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Diana
But he didn't realize that it was actually doing something to him to. Okay, so.

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Karin
Now he's aware that.

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Diana
Now now he's kind of thinking, okay, well, I don't know if I like these coloring books. So because there's this kind of like push pull in him. And I say him because it's a little old guy.

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Karin
Just come to us as a little guy.

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Diana
Yeah, a little chair. There's just push, pull. And there's part of him that wants control, you know, and there's part of him that wants you to be happy. So it's like. And those are two opposing forces.

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Karin
Yeah, it sounds a lot like the ego who really wants to help but also likes to be in charge. And so that's like, how does a monkey mind. So we're here today to find out how the monkey mind can help without, without taking over the situation because I think most of us know by now that, you know, if you're grounded in the earth yourself and you're connected and you're you're actually working a lot through your heart, and the mind is facilitating what you're perceiving through your heart.

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Karin
It's a it's a facilitator role. More than a control role. And I ask monkey mind if he minds being more of a synchronize facilitator role.

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Diana
So he's saying, oh, synchronized swimming.

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Karin
It does like synchronized swimming. You know, the whole body is working together. But there is a there is a ability to absorb more information through the heart, which comes in through the body. And some of it gets disseminated to the mind. And then the mind would need to know what to do with it, need to know, you know, need to sort of take it from there, you know, helpful way.

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Diana
Okay. Well, first of all, I think perhaps my monkey mind is amenable to this because like I said, there's two at least two opposing forces. And, he's not wanting the control one to completely take off. Right.

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Karin
Well, he would have a bigger role if he was a facilitator than he would if we were constantly trying to, like, chemically kill him or dull his does activity, you know, with drinking or whatever we do.

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Diana
Off in a corner with a coloring book.

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Karin
Put him off in the corner with the coloring book. Well, that's one way to have some synchronized use, though, because it's the hands. The eyes, the mind are all kind of working together and and the colors are very delightful to the mind.

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Diana
Right. But still, it's like it's off in a corner.

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Karin
Correct.

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Diana
You know, it's like. Yeah. And he wants to be part of the action.

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Karin
He wants to be part of the action. But is he willing to like, follow the heart suddenly try to lead.

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Diana
Yeah. He said he'll try. Yeah. Yeah. And so we all have to start somewhere.

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Karin
Yeah. You have to start somewhere. And if you have had one rule, a good chair there existence and stepping into another role takes okay.

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Diana
He's sitting up straighter now. He looks a little bit happier.

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Karin
Oh good. Okay. Because we're not trying to get rid of him. We're trying to include him in a way that, you know is better for everyone.

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Diana
Right?

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Karin
If we stop trying to get rid of you, that's going to make you feel better, right?

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Diana
Yes. Yeah. Okay. And so it's we also have to do something about the name Monkey mind.

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Karin
Monkey mind. We're not changing it to Monkey Face. That's not going to work.

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Diana
No, no.

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Karin
Name. This takes a minute or two to get it intertwine. But we're in a beautiful time in our existence where we are connected on a lot of, levels. So we could just give you a new name. But does he have his own name that he'd like to call master somebody? Mastermind? Not master. Because master sounds like you're beholden to them, so it has to be something.

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Diana
Yeah, he's still trying to hang on.

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Karin
Right. Which we want you to hang on, but not in being control. Master is a is a name for someone who's in control. Oh, okay. Mastermind. What about incredible mind or.

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Diana
I'm thinking of something with revolving.

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Karin
The revolving mind.

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Diana
I don't know why that.

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Karin
Well, maybe it'll come to us later.

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Diana
Yeah.

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Karin
But you're thinking of that. Or he's thinking of that.

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Diana
He is kind of.

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Karin
Thinking a revolving, evolving mind.

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Diana
Yeah, the.

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Karin
Evolving mind could be a much better term than.

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Diana
Yeah.

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Karin
And we've come up with.

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Diana
Oh yeah. Okay. So here's another thing. Right. Besides this push pull is also karmic. He wants things to stay the same. He's comfortable. Okay, so it kind of, like, has to be pushed to new experiences.

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Karin
All right.

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Diana
And,

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Karin
Okay, so that's like the typical mind. You know, sometimes we get comfortable when we don't want to learn new things. That's what. That's what it's for. Yeah.

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Diana
He is monkey mind. Right? Right. Okay. So we're.

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Karin
Going to calm the evolving mind.

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Diana
Evolving. Right okay. So you see now with the evolving mind right. You're going to have to be ready to say, oh this is something new. Let's try it out. Not say, oh, I don't want to do that. You know, this is scary.

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Karin
Well I'm.

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Diana
Going to stay the same.

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Karin
Right?

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Diana
Okay. And also you and you. And once you start feeling that say, oh, I just want to everything to stay the same, you know, let's let's keep the control of things. Right. You have to let that go. You can't control everything.

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Karin
Well, there is a big price. I mean, I understand what Diane is telling you, but there's a big price to all this because mind is such a fantastic tool for us humans. And I feel like because so many people will have to try and push you down, compartmentalize you, put you in a corner, drug you, whatever. All that will go away and your true master fullness will come to the surface.

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Karin
And if you're allowing yourself to work in synchronicity with the heart of each individual and the evolving mind is not only, you know, it's not leading it anymore, but it's such a big part of it that, you know, we've we've lived in this more, masculine, patriarchal form for a long time, and we've achieved a lot through that.

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Karin
But we're going to be moving into a more of a balanced, you know, where there's more harmony between creation and form, and that means more fluidity in every way. And the fluidity is going to be driving our innovations and the mind is going to be a beautiful part of that fluidity, unless it stays rigid, and then it becomes something that we have to do the ayahuasca to unwind or something, you know, or new mushrooms or whatever.

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Karin
In fact, hey, ask, ask, ask him what? He thinks of mind altering drugs that are about unleashing his control, like ayahuasca or mushrooms.

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Diana
Yeah, well, I think, and when he and he can see their appeal because start happening. Right. But then after a while, it's like, too much, too much freedom. Too much.

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Karin
Right. So there's a balance out there between freedom and structure that's more harmonious. And one I don't even want to say than the one that is now. But as we're evolving towards one with more harmony, or more balance, the mind if it's coming along with us, will be the great asset.

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Diana
Okay, so the.

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Karin
Mind has come with us.

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Diana
It has to come with us. Right? There's no going around that. But, you know, it's like, think of it as is an equal partnership, okay? You're not cut out of anything and completely you're not even just partially solid following somebody else's orders. You're working in equal partnership.

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Karin
With us humans.

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Diana
With the heart.

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Karin
Yes. Okay. And the soul. So let me ask, what we call a transformer. You know.

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Diana
It's like, mind.

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Karin
Boggling. Mind. Oh, my God, I'm going to need some help. Me evolving mind. Obviously, I haven't had quite enough tools to get my brain going. My mind going to this morning. But obviously there's lots of changes that go on in the mind in the early years of us humans like kids and stuff really. They don't mind learning stuff and they don't mind change in the brain's growing.

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Karin
And neurons are growing and and minds are developing in all kinds of ways. And, and there's a point where. There's more safety and not changing. And where where does that happen or how does that happen? And and what do you think about that?

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Diana
Okay. Well, you got to remember that there is it's when you say mind spots, people think of brain and the physical brain. Okay. Well, we know that they're growing and changing when you're a child actually just growing and changing throughout your whole life. But, don't confuse that with with the mind like thoughts that are in there which actually don't come from the physical brain they come from into.

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Diana
Well, you come from your experiences, right? And, like, the way you're, the way you're raised, the social conditions, your past lives, anything that you remember. So, Yeah. Okay. So the mind that the monkey mind actually comes not from the physical brain comes from this other stuff.

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Karin
Okay. But the answer to the question, yeah, the mind is changing pretty rapidly when you're younger.

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Diana
And then it's during the physical brain.

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Karin
Well, the mind is too, because you learn different things all the time when you're a little kid.

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Diana
Oh, yeah.

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Karin
Yeah. And you're open to new experiences. You can't wait to go to school at times and right, meet other people and. Right. And then at some point, the mind makes itself up.

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Diana
Well, depending on what kind of experiences you have, you know, okay.

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Karin
Yeah, it's true, but I think a lot of people do make their mind up. You know, it's like, you know, this is like I'm a political affiliation or I'm a type of religion or I'm a like this, you know, that they make up their minds.

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Diana
Yes, they do.

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Karin
And sometimes they become rigid in that and hate change.

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Diana
Right. Exactly.

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Karin
And how does that what happens then, when that what happens to the mind when that reaches that threshold of I'm done learning.

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Diana
The mind, the physical brain.

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Karin
Changing? No, the mind says I'm done changing. I formulated my stance for the rest of my life.

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Diana
Well, that's that's that's extreme versions of the monkey mind.

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Karin
But a lot of people do that. And I'm just asking the monkey mind, like.

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Diana
Why? Why does this happen?

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Karin
Yeah. What causes that to happen?

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Karin
They go from being open to, you know, stuck in a spot.

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Diana
It's it gets and it's a lot of it is clear, like, extremely personal, extremely individual. Depending on your and the person's unique perspective on the world and their experiences.

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Karin
So that's what he's saying.

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Diana
Yeah. Yeah, that's what he's saying. Right. But but also. And then that's why, in order to, to break this, hold that the monkey mind. So it's in essence, it's like a confluence of factors create the monkey mind. Right. And then it kind of keeps perpetuating itself.

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Karin
Okay.

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Diana
Because it likes itself and it doesn't want to lose control. It's a breakdown of get its own energy.

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Karin
So you really don't have a monkey mind until you get to a certain point in your life.

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Diana
You say, well.

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Karin
Less so okay.

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Diana
Less so.

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Karin
So this is one reason, maybe why people think they can get rid of it is because they don't really have it as a child, and then they get it and then they're like,

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Diana
Well, they. Yeah. And then once they realize that it's kind of limiting them and they get annoyed at it and they want it to go away, and in some cases, you know, what it takes for it to go away is to have some kind of catastrophic event.

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Karin
Catastrophic event, or a or a heavy dose dose of drugs or something.

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Diana
Yeah. Right. Right.

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Karin
So because I know a lot of people do a lot of drugs, especially like, you know, when they're in, pain or extreme frustration.

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Diana
Right?

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Karin
You okay? So, I have here these, oracle type cards. Vision cards. They're called botanical wisdom, and they're a new deck with, brand new images of flowers and messages from flowers. And they're specifically here to help people. And I'm wondering if.

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Diana
If monkey mind.

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Karin
Yeah. They're still gonna call them monkey mind. I thought we came up with a new name for evolving what the Evolving Mind would like to ask the flowers. A piece of wisdom for a piece of wisdom or advice on how to navigate, change, support, change within the evolving mind.

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Diana
For himself.

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Karin
For himself. Yes.

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Diana
That's a very good idea.

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Karin
Right. So he saying yes he's.

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Diana
Saying yes yes yes yes. So he, he, he's going to take any help he can get.

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Karin
Oh that's a really positive attitude. I give you a lot of credit for that. That's awesome. All right. So I have some here in my mind in my hand. I have some on the table. Is there a particular pile he wants to pick from. Can we drop down to my hand? Okay. Is it this one? No.

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Karin
This one?

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Diana
Yeah. This one. Go. This one? Yes.

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Karin
Okay. This message is from a rose, and it says I feel a swell of gratitude.

00;21;49;12 - 00;21;50;10
Diana
Well.

00;21;50;12 - 00;21;51;12
Karin
Yeah.

00;21;51;14 - 00;21;53;01
Diana
And what color is the rose?

00;21;53;03 - 00;21;56;27
Karin
The rose is pink. Love and joy color. Wow.

00;21;57;00 - 00;22;40;18
Diana
Okay, so I think I think, these are all fine. Realizes that basically one of the things do exactly what the car says. I feel incredible gratitude for actually experiencing this, for realizing that there's solutions to this. His problem, this problem was like he's agonizing over us wanting to get rid of some, and now he's realizing, oh, okay, you know, the end result is much better, right?

00;22;40;20 - 00;22;43;07
Karin
It's gonna have much more to do.

00;22;43;09 - 00;22;47;29
Diana
Yeah. So, I mean, it's starting to feel incredibly grateful.

00;22;48;03 - 00;23;05;21
Karin
Oh, awesome. And that gratitude is a very high vibrating place to be. And if you keep this image of the flower, the pink flower with you, the pink rose that's the rose is high, vibrating. And pink is a color of love and joy, which is where you're headed with this whole thing.

00;23;05;24 - 00;23;08;16
Diana
Thank you. Oh, he's saying thank you, thank you.

00;23;08;16 - 00;23;22;18
Karin
Thank you, thank you. Tentacle with vision cards. Okay. Evolving mind. I was wondering if you would have, some advice for our listeners or for Diana and myself.

00;23;22;21 - 00;23;35;23
Diana
Don't be too hard on me. Oh, yeah, that's what he's saying. So he is actually not. He's not representative of the collective, right?

00;23;35;23 - 00;23;41;27
Karin
Oh, he's not. Okay, so this is just your, I think my mind I.

00;23;41;27 - 00;23;46;00
Diana
Think it's our it's kind of like ours. Okay.

00;23;46;00 - 00;23;48;28
Karin
Okay. So this transformational mind is ours.

00;23;49;00 - 00;23;49;23
Diana
Yeah.

00;23;49;25 - 00;23;53;19
Karin
Yours and mine. Right. And he doesn't represent the collective mind.

00;23;53;21 - 00;24;06;27
Diana
Not not he he represents them in that he realizes that there are people out there that want to get rid of their monkey mind.

00;24;07;00 - 00;24;08;10
Karin
Okay, okay.

00;24;08;12 - 00;24;13;22
Diana
And, he, he, they, they may be functional, more or less all the same to you.

00;24;13;24 - 00;24;20;05
Karin
Right? So he makes his transformation. Will others make the same transformation?

00;24;20;05 - 00;24;20;29
Diana
Oh, definitely.

00;24;21;02 - 00;24;22;28
Karin
You know, share this information around.

00;24;22;28 - 00;24;24;13
Diana
Yes. Yes.

00;24;24;16 - 00;24;33;21
Karin
And then anybody listen to this podcast maybe they can actually you know make a special request with their own mind.

00;24;33;24 - 00;24;38;11
Diana
Yeah I mean it's kind of like this whole two hour neural network.

00;24;39;03 - 00;24;51;03
Diana
It's like not because it's like everybody's monkey mind is very individual. Right. But somehow you're all connected.

00;24;51;03 - 00;24;54;14
Karin
Also, I thought we gave him a new name.

00;24;54;17 - 00;24;56;08
Diana
Well, I'm talking about the old monkey.

00;24;56;10 - 00;24;58;04
Karin
Oh, the old monkey. Monkey. Okay.

00;24;58;06 - 00;25;27;05
Diana
But it's very individualized. They're all connected. But he's not speaking for the collective because he can't. Really. Because he's the individual. Okay, okay, okay. But even though he's going to be changing to the evolving mind, it's still the same framework there. I mean, everybody's kind of like, he's got the individual evolving mind, which they're all connected through this neural network.

00;25;27;07 - 00;25;37;29
Karin
Okay. So it's interesting. All right. Is there anything else we should know? Did he ever give. Oh, he says.

00;25;37;29 - 00;25;39;06
Diana
Don't be too hard on him.

00;25;39;08 - 00;25;40;29
Karin
Don't be too hard on you okay.

00;25;41;00 - 00;25;45;19
Diana
Yeah. But and also be supportive, you know.

00;25;45;23 - 00;25;47;29
Karin
Be supportive of the evolving mind.

00;25;48;01 - 00;25;59;17
Diana
Yeah. Yeah. Don't be so quick to dismiss them or make fun of them.

00;25;59;20 - 00;26;05;11
Karin
When? When you make mistakes and can't when you make mistakes, don't blame it on them.

00;26;05;13 - 00;26;14;23
Diana
Well, they're done. It could be done to share. Yeah. Don't be. Yeah. They're just trying to survive in their own own little way. Okay.

00;26;14;25 - 00;26;30;17
Karin
All right. The evolving mind. That's awesome. I think we could have a whole evolving mind movement. It may be there already is one. We don't even know about it. It could be good just stepping into it for ourselves.

00;26;30;20 - 00;26;33;03
Karin
All right. Diana, is there anything else?

00;26;33;17 - 00;26;38;25
Diana
No, but he says he really likes, Now come the flowers.

00;26;38;25 - 00;26;43;07
Karin
Oh, that. Oh, the flowers from this botanical vision. Yeah. Oracle cards.

00;26;43;09 - 00;26;45;29
Diana
Oh, that's helping him a lot to all of them.

00;26;45;29 - 00;26;47;06
Karin
Or just the one I pulled for.

00;26;47;08 - 00;26;48;28
Diana
No, all. All of them.

00;26;49;03 - 00;26;56;12
Karin
Wow. Here. I'm just going to show them. All of them so you can see them.

00;26;56;15 - 00;26;58;12
Karin
This is hot off the press.

00;26;58;15 - 00;27;14;03
Diana
So yeah I mean he's like I just loves all the colors, all the different shades, all, Like, you know, the supply of energy that's coming off of them.

00;27;14;05 - 00;27;18;27
Karin
Oh, wonderful. Wonderful. All right.

00;27;18;27 - 00;27;20;18
Diana
Soak it all up.

00;27;20;20 - 00;27;25;19
Karin
There. All right. Here for you to soak up any time you want. That's there. That's their mission.

00;27;25;21 - 00;27;29;08
Diana
If they help you out.

00;27;29;10 - 00;27;38;23
Karin
And this one will always be yours. Totally. Another one. All right. In gratitude.

00;27;38;29 - 00;27;43;03
Diana
Yes. And gratitude. He's waving now. All right. Thank you.

00;27;43;06 - 00;27;45;13
Karin
See you later. Evolving mind.

00;27;45;16 - 00;27;47;03
Diana
Yeah. My morning mind.

00;27;47;03 - 00;27;48;21
Karin
You say bye. Okay. See you later.

00;27;48;21 - 00;27;49;09
Diana
See you later.

00;27;49;09 - 00;27;54;17
Karin
I ego. All right. Thank you.

00;27;54;19 - 00;27;58;09
Diana
Thank you. Karin.

00;27;58;11 - 00;28;06;04
Karin
That's all for this episode of the 1 to 9 podcast. Thank you for listening. And please sign up for our newsletter at 1to9Podcast.com.

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